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DOROTHY LOAN PROVIDERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10227886315997613724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053511078946418581.post-58812234591878352162015-10-20T10:58:50.036-04:002015-10-20T10:58:50.036-04:00Love this stuff Ken....I am deep into 117 at the m...Love this stuff Ken....I am deep into 117 at the moment...and have some ideas...keep on working!Candy Minxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07350752657678863378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053511078946418581.post-20024431493547499162013-01-09T16:46:51.513-05:002013-01-09T16:46:51.513-05:00You know what's interesting to me is that Deli...You know what's interesting to me is that Delillo's novella Omega Point is 117 pages long. The novel has everything to do with an end and new beginning. I read Omega Point after I had become aware of 117 in McCarthy's work so I couldn't just dismiss at as coincidence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053511078946418581.post-60153886538472576072011-01-22T10:56:34.622-05:002011-01-22T10:56:34.622-05:00Thanks, Ken. I've seen the Forum but do not y...Thanks, Ken. I've seen the Forum but do not yet belong. Something for me to check out in more depth, thank you for the suggestion. <br /><br />I certainly agree with your "next C.Mc" comment; that platitude is one best left unsaid. <br /><br />Now that I said it, though, it sure would be nice if I really could write like Cormac. Simple in many ways, highly complex in many others (like the final paragraph of The Road). <br /><br />I find Cormac to be an enigma, and that is what attracts us to him. See you, Ken.Coolkayaker1https://www.blogger.com/profile/16480679419271233314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053511078946418581.post-54170076048535270892011-01-21T16:33:52.132-05:002011-01-21T16:33:52.132-05:00Oh, and, Coolkayaker1, if you haven't already,...Oh, and, Coolkayaker1, if you haven't already, you should check out the Cormac McCarthy Society Forum (link is on the "McCarthy Links" page), a lively, entertaining, informative, friendly, and contentious online community where I and many others discuss all things McCarthy ... and everything else under the sun, hahaha! (If you have checked it out, and if you already have registered to post comments, which one are you?)Kenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05253547820943889153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053511078946418581.post-54250337389966312062011-01-21T12:26:07.568-05:002011-01-21T12:26:07.568-05:00McCarthy had one major slouch on that couch, as cl...McCarthy had one major slouch on that couch, as close to lying down as he could get and still technically be called sitting!<br /><br />I find that the McCarthy interviews and feature articles about him in the last few years to be rather threadbare. McCarthy doesn't say much of anything of value (a friend summarizes, "McCarthy just makes pronouncements."), interview questions do not get to McCarthy's inner self or his art, and article writers treat him more like a celebrity to hang around with for some time than the artist whom some of us would like to know better.<br /><br />I think part of what makes McCarthy a great artist is that he has been able to express his inner self in his own voice. Nowadays, many writers are lauded by critics as "the next Cormac McCarthy" or some similar platitude, and those writers might even like it. But to my ears, it could also mean that such a writer has emulated, perhaps even very well, the voice of a respected artist, but has not yet discovered his or her own voice and cannot yet express his or her own inner self; that the writer might be a good copyist but is not the real thing. The comparison to McCarthy could actually be more negative than positive, in my opinion.Kenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05253547820943889153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053511078946418581.post-86206237263989297052011-01-20T23:44:06.111-05:002011-01-20T23:44:06.111-05:00Here, here, Ken. I agree with you in every regard...Here, here, Ken. I agree with you in every regard. I believe you're right, Cormac is certainly a tough character to corner, and although Ms. Winfrey did get him to agree to an interview (albeit, only with the coaxing of his agent Amanda Urban, from what I read, and even then, only at his "home turf" of the Santa Fe Institute, rather than in the Chicago studio (you go, Cormac!), I'm doubtful that a man as private as Mr. MCCarthy would really open up all his inner explanations just because he was asked. Heck, he was so uncomfortable during that interview (hand to cheek, slumped down in chair -- again, you go,Cormac!), he probably doesn;t even know what he was saying! I think you'd agree, Ken, the reason we enjoy Cormac so much is not only his writings, but the character of the man...the contemplative, unassuming, anti-establishment character of Cormac is truly a thing of beauty. He is "himself", and for that we applaud.<br /><br />I think you're absolutely right to look into 117, and all other things McCarthy, and I for one enjoyed reading your thesis and explanation. I like yours more than McCarthy's, frankly. <br /><br />Just as man wants there to be a God, a Cormac reader wants there to be meaning behind the words. I know I do, at least. And I thank you for shedding some light into this sometimes murky corner.Coolkayaker1https://www.blogger.com/profile/16480679419271233314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053511078946418581.post-11151407894753924242011-01-20T12:43:06.226-05:002011-01-20T12:43:06.226-05:00Greetings, Coolkayaker1! McCarthy himself, of cour...Greetings, Coolkayaker1! McCarthy himself, of course, is the ultimate authority on his own works, yet McCarthy might not be, I believe, a reliable source to explain his own works! Hence, although McCarthy said this (about "117" that time, about other things at other times), I don't necessarily take what he said at face value. However, I am also not saying that what I have posted here (or at the Cormac McCarthy Society Forum) has McCarthy figured out, or that it is the only interpretation, or that it is even valid, and so I do leave open the possibility that McCarthy meant nothing more than the denoted words. There are alternate viewpoints, some of which I also subscribe to, or which I have heard that are equally compelling, that shed different insights into McCarthy's works. The beauty of art is not ruined by people talking about the art. Enshrining a work of art lest its mystery be revealed, therefore ruining the enjoyment of it, is not something I believe in. Talking about a work of art that one loves could be enlightening, but it is definitely a lot of fun!Kenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05253547820943889153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053511078946418581.post-70579632929462742532011-01-20T11:17:18.907-05:002011-01-20T11:17:18.907-05:00Cormac McCarthy himself was asked directly by Opra...Cormac McCarthy himself was asked directly by Oprah as to the significance of 117. Cormac told Oprah that is has no significance --it's just a number that got struck in his head. He was very direct about it. <br /><br />I'm sure you're familiar with the Oprah-Cormac interviews (available on Oprah.com). It's interesting to read your eloquent dissection of the number--a true analysis--and then to know Cormac meant nothing by it. What do you think of that, Ken, the common affliction of the viewing public to ascribe meaning to art (paintings, sculpture, writing, etc.) where no meaning was intended.<br /><br />I personally think this is the beauty of art. The understanding that the artist might have meant nothing--or everything-- and like a mental puzzle, we can try to figure it all out. Deceased artists, unfortunately, we cannot ask "what did you mean by this?" Or is it unfortunate? Perhaps it's better to not know, to leave it a mystery, to enjoy the mental puzzle, and to ultimately interpret the work as we, the individual, see it.Coolkayaker1https://www.blogger.com/profile/16480679419271233314noreply@blogger.com